Isn’t it a remarkable coincidence…

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9 Responses to Isn’t it a remarkable coincidence…

  1. Me too, I am a different religion than my family. Jesus made a big difference in me.

  2. AtheismDefended says:

    But they’ll spin it to say it’s proof of something existing.

  3. thepaganspirit21 says:

    I am a different religion then my whole family….

    • tildeb says:

      But not too different! Do you fall into the category we like to call the “Religious… but” kind?

      • thepaganspirit21 says:

        No, not at all. I am very strongly involved in my faith.

      • tildeb says:

        … hence, the ‘not too different’ observation.

        Dawkins’ point was that religious belief is highly correlated to geography (and certainly not any emphasis on the truth value of the different tenets religions usually advertize). It is hardly a criticism of that point to suggest that a move away from the parent’s religion to another religion is somehow evidence against the point.

      • thepaganspirit21 says:

        I agree that religion can be based upon where someone lives and their upbringing, but there is such a thing as communication between different nations in our modern society… And there has been for a while. (The Silk Road, letters and now the Internet for examples) So that theory is kind of irrelevant in the current world. I am sure that idea worked fine in the past as people couldn’t communicate with one another, which is why they relied upon the religion most common where they lived.
        My spirituality comes from the other half of the world and I chose it because I believe it is the right thing for me. I have no problem with people have their own religions, no religion, ect, but I don’t think we are restrained (anymore) by our geography and our parents opinions.

      • tildeb says:

        You’re missing the point: religious belief – not religious belief – is the point, meaning that a child indoctrinated into thinking that faith itself is a virtue (it doesn’t matter what the faith is) is much more likely to ‘become’ religious as an adult… not for any compelling reasons from reality to determine this one from that one is the right one but to assume that faith-based beliefs of any kind are in any way worth having.

        Sure, there’s a direct positive correlation between geography and a particular religious belief but no one is suggesting geography alone is the causal factor; rather it’s easily demonstrable that a person’s ‘choice’ of religious belief correlates most strongly with the family and families tend to live in the same culture and speak the same language. That you believe in some other religious set of tenets isn’t surprising; many people – especially in the 18-24 age group – go through exactly this. The same correlation holds as strongly politically, too but, in a similar fashion, where one falls on the political spectrum correlates strongly with family and the geography shared.

        If we add history to the mix, we can safely predict as Dawkins does that if you born in ancient Greece, you would probably worship your family’s gods in the same way that a person born in Riyadh will probably worship Allah and one born in Salt Lake City will not be a Jain.

      • thepaganspirit21 says:

        Yup , I agree that people who come from a religious family are more likely to find being religious important. I don’t think it’s everyone though, as there are lot’s of atheists who come from religious families yet they don’t find a need for religion. There are quite a large population of Atheists in places that are (or were) very Christian, like the United Kingdom.
        Well anyways, thanks for the interesting debate.

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